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by Wanderer
Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:38 pm
Forum: New Avatar Power
Topic: Labezerin what do you know?
Replies: 5
Views: 4784

Re: Labezerin what do you know?

I think i was asking for the wrong thing. Ill ask for success in everything i do and see if that works...Mostly just summoned him but i think ill go back to the rituals with him. I read several post here where they had bad luck when invoking him, So makes me believe there is my problem there. Ill t...
by Wanderer
Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:45 pm
Forum: New Avatar Power
Topic: Labezerin what do you know?
Replies: 5
Views: 4784

Re: Labezerin what do you know?

Reason i ask is because im thinking i botched up a ritual with him awhile back. Maybe i should just ask to bring me good luck. Because my luck has gone to crap. Dont know why hes in mind but theres a reason. Ive gone thru every thread on him. And in all most asked for over all luck not winning the ...
by Wanderer
Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:08 pm
Forum: Greek Magical Papyri (PGM)
Topic: Hekate & Her Mysteries
Replies: 40
Views: 36902

Re: Hekate & Her Mysteries

Now that this thread has been split off from the one about the Headless Rite, I'll respond more fully. Thank you for sharing your thoughts, @monsnoleedra. I have found something similar in her tendencies, as I've been inspired to seek the means of entering a new doorway many times over. For instance...
by Wanderer
Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:46 pm
Forum: Greek Magical Papyri (PGM)
Topic: Hekate & Her Mysteries
Replies: 40
Views: 36902

Re: Hekate & Her Mysteries

Side note here but almost wish we could cut out the Hekate discussion from this thread and create a new thread. Would that be possible? @ Wander - I to find that many times Hekate acts both as a keyholder in the role of one who holds the key to a doorway I need access to or as one who inspires me t...
by Wanderer
Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:46 pm
Forum: Greek Magical Papyri (PGM)
Topic: Hekate & Her Mysteries
Replies: 40
Views: 36902

Re: Hekate & Her Mysteries

:goodpost :goodpost all. @Monsnoleedra - I remember you mentioned the procession of the keys before in a thread last year, thanks for elaborating on this. I got an energy rush on reading the Keys being associated with the cosmic soul. I have no basis to expand on it, but intuitively it feels very r...
by Wanderer
Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:46 pm
Forum: Greek Magical Papyri (PGM)
Topic: Hekate & Her Mysteries
Replies: 40
Views: 36902

Re: Hekate & Her Mysteries

As far as I am aware the only place I’ve seen Surgat attributed to the 25th Mansion is in JSK’s Geosophia . If anyone knows a another reference to this I’d love to see it. I take it that the association is his own invention and he goes into pages and pages of logic about it. My own UPG suggests som...
by Wanderer
Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:46 pm
Forum: Greek Magical Papyri (PGM)
Topic: Hekate & Her Mysteries
Replies: 40
Views: 36902

Re: Hekate & Her Mysteries

Fascinating discussion guys, and I've very much enjoyed what I've read thus far. I'd like to contribute as well, given my awareness of the topic. I imagine you're correct, FR137, about the shared role of keybearer. It, to me, is not dissimilar to the role of Cailleach or Gatekeeper, in that there i...
by Wanderer
Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:45 pm
Forum: Greek Magical Papyri (PGM)
Topic: Hekate & Her Mysteries
Replies: 40
Views: 36902

Re: Hekate & Her Mysteries

Surgat is used to open any door. Hekate has the keys to the world. I think that is where their connection starts and possibly ends. I don't think the connection lies in a shared identity but rather a shared function. But I could be way wrong. Hekate newbie here lol All that follows is my own opinio...
by Wanderer
Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:45 pm
Forum: Greek Magical Papyri (PGM)
Topic: Hekate & Her Mysteries
Replies: 40
Views: 36902

Re: Hekate & Her Mysteries

Surgat is used to open any door. Hekate has the keys to the world. I think that is where their connection starts and possibly ends. I don't think the connection lies in a shared identity but rather a shared function. But I could be way wrong. Hekate newbie here lol I agree that these particular fun...
by Wanderer
Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:45 pm
Forum: Greek Magical Papyri (PGM)
Topic: Hekate & Her Mysteries
Replies: 40
Views: 36902

Re: Hekate & Her Mysteries

“Surgat is attributed to the 25th mansion, from 9 to 20 degrees of Aquarius. Incidentally, in the better known attribution given by Agrippa &c, Aziel is the ‘angel’ of this mansion. Within this mansion is Neptune’s Exaltation and Pluto’s Fall degree, 19 degrees Aquarius. In solar terms, the Cri...