Hekate & Her Mysteries

Syncretic Egyptian / Graeco-Roman magic from the collection of texts known as the Papyri Graecae Magicae.
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Re: Hekate & Her Mysteries

Post#61 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:38 pm

monsnoleedra wrote:When I was creating this sigil / image I actually created a set of three. So there are in fact two sister images that go with the one I have shown here. I have rough drafts of them on one of the images I've attached so you can get an idea. basically they are the same image though one is inverted while the other is more opposite with a few minor changes. Almost as if one is a true male and female energy while the inverted felt like it would be negative vs positive when I was considering it. I've mainly messed with the image I've been showing here as far as how I was thinking about celestial / chthonic and oceanic. But the inverted would put the underworld to the top which would pull chthonic powers first I think. And also pull dark moon or waxing moon period influences.

But like I said my skill with any of the programs really sucks so the sister images are really bad.


Interesting indeed! Thank you for sharing. I notice that the sigils each flow differently based upon their directional orientation, which has gotten me thinking about the directionality present within the context of a land-taking ritual, for example. This, in turn, calls to mind something I believe we discussed prior in one of our Heketean threads: how light playing off of her image invokes a different "face".

Perhaps directional placement in or on a monument would make a like difference here, as I've noticed that this occurs with a sigil I created with her direction some time ago. While the directionality of the sigil itself (be it straight up and down, inverted, leaning left, or leaning right) makes little difference, where that sigil faces when I do such works makes for a substantial difference. I've asked to share that image here, but she's given me a hard "no" on that for the moment, so instead I'll speak on this in the abstract to see if it creates some inspiration.

I've been meaning to test to see if light playing off of that sigil makes a difference, as light shining through it most definitely does.

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Re: Hekate & Her Mysteries

Post#62 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:07 pm

Wanderer wrote: Interesting indeed! Thank you for sharing. I notice that the sigils each flow differently based upon their directional orientation, which has gotten me thinking about the directionality present within the context of a land-taking ritual, for example. This, in turn, calls to mind something I believe we discussed prior in one of our Heketean threads: how light playing off of her image invokes a different "face".

Perhaps directional placement in or on a monument would make a like difference here, as I've noticed that this occurs with a sigil I created with her direction some time ago. While the directionality of the sigil itself (be it straight up and down, inverted, leaning left, or leaning right) makes little difference, where that sigil faces when I do such works makes for a substantial difference. I've asked to share that image here, but she's given me a hard "no" on that for the moment, so instead I'll speak on this in the abstract to see if it creates some inspiration.

I've been meaning to test to see if light playing off of that sigil makes a difference, as light shining through it most definitely does.


I've though of making a walking wheel with them. But to be honest it also had me thinking a bit about the strophalos as well when I was playing around with the walking wheel concept. To give them a central point you'd have to have a void or hub to align them to. They wouldn't be specifically connected to it but would sort of be rotating around it or positioned off of it. Sort of like you where looking down upon a disk from above but it was flattened out. Tried to imagine it if it was circular and oval with the figures wrapped on it in sort of a 3d image like a globe. Which would mean there is a void at the top and bottom. I can see it but can't really describe it to well. It's not an orb but more like an egg when I see it though. Yet as it spins the light definitely changes as it reflects the face of each image but inwardly and outwardly in how it is seen and projected.

I've had the idea of inscribing all three on a candle and putting some other images on it. Get the idea of a ritual / ceremony to go with it but it's still in the development stage at this point. Sort of a there is more to come so stand by for it. Think that is why I've had more to do with the one form and the other two are rough right now .
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Re: Hekate & Her Mysteries

Post#63 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:30 pm

monsnoleedra wrote:I've though of making a walking wheel with them. But to be honest it also had me thinking a bit about the strophalos as well when I was playing around with the walking wheel concept. To give them a central point you'd have to have a void or hub to align them to. They wouldn't be specifically connected to it but would sort of be rotating around it or positioned off of it. Sort of like you where looking down upon a disk from above but it was flattened out. Tried to imagine it if it was circular and oval with the figures wrapped on it in sort of a 3d image like a globe. Which would mean there is a void at the top and bottom. I can see it but can't really describe it to well. It's not an orb but more like an egg when I see it though. Yet as it spins the light definitely changes as it reflects the face of each image but inwardly and outwardly in how it is seen and projected.

I've had the idea of inscribing all three on a candle and putting some other images on it. Get the idea of a ritual / ceremony to go with it but it's still in the development stage at this point. Sort of a there is more to come so stand by for it. Think that is why I've had more to do with the one form and the other two are rough right now .


That could be a very interesting design choice, and one that could very likely pay off in a meaningful way. I suspect execution of that particular design would have quite the impact on its use and flow, since I see this being useful in a couple of different ways...not least among them being a quarry mill water wheel like so: http://www.whitemill.org/z0028.htm

I've been trying to figure out why this sigil was so appealing to me beyond the obvious, and it was in seeing this concept connected to a wheel that pieced this together for me. Perhaps it would be possible to construct a miniature version thereof that would then act to "power" rituals and the like when used? Its an oddball thought to be sure, but somehow has me very excited all the same.

This could potentially tie in to what you're suggesting it here, given the mention of the sigil rotating around a central point, as working with Hekate has some distinctive grindstone elements. Each revolution about the center slowly effaces our state of being and changes our disposition, after all.

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Post#64 » Thu Sep 26, 2019 2:04 am

Playing around with it still but here is a rough wheel format. I got the idea to add a symbol to denote celestial (star / full moon / crescent moon), 3 mountain peaks for chthonic & 3 waves for oceanic. Started to make each leg of the design a "Y" for the cross roads but then though that was not needed since it is a natural "Y" given it is a 3 celled design anyway. Yet still retains the idea of a hidden 4th face via the circle and empty space in the central opening.

Still not completely satisfied as something seems missing but though i'd put this up anyway and see what other's though.

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Re: Hekate & Her Mysteries

Post#65 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:17 am

Though I'd' add this as a discussion point for how this idea has been unfolding in my head.

I was doing some pondering for this wheel design. Keep seeing it in my head and then I started to see two other wheels appearing behind it but working in conjunction with it. That and the idea that Hekate holds dominion in the celestial realm as well as the Chthonic and Oceanic realms.

So the main wheel and the designs incorporate the idea of all three influences. Each quarter accounts for manipulating or calling forth an influence from that particular influence. But something has been nagging me as missing from all of this.

Then she showed me an image of the heavens rotating around the designs I had created. But the image was shown in two bands. One as a planetary band and one as a zodiac band. Each band moving sort of on its own but aligning up against one of the quadrants to influence that quadrant. Like a set of wheels that are dialed in to call upon specific functions. Almost as if they are used in a waning, waxing or full influence capacity by how they are placed in the quadrant.

Like I've said my ability to use paint or other programs has sucked so far. So that hasn't allowed me to create the desired image but I've attached what I think the astronomical & astrological pattern looks like. Then you can perhaps imagine the wheel placed in the center of it. I found one image that shows the duel influence of some planets upon certain zodiac signs such as Pisces which is influenced by both Neptune and Jupiter.

So where there is duel influence you'd choose which is the better influence or use the duel influence.

Of course this is just my mind thinking out loud at the moment.
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