So It Begins

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So It Begins

Post#1 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:29 am

As I have slowly returned to occult work, after nearly a 3 year long absence, I have decided to "Keep it simple stupid". I have undergone a very rapid change from a strict Traditional work, to things not as traditional, as I have learned much over the past three years that shook my paradigm and changed my approach. Anyway, I have started the NAP ritual by the book.

1.) I can tell a change in my mood (elevated) upon starting this. It is a very enjoyable experience, unlike evocation which is exhausting for me and strenuous.
2.) I feel as if something is working on my behalf, (Much like after an evocation you can feel the spirit around you working) however, again it's not weird or odd unlike with the Goetia.
3.) Today I started getting semi clairvoyant visions in my mind's eye of what I believe to be the spirit.
I have not gotten any of my desired results yet(money), but I have just begun and do not expect them so early. However, I have had a knack lately for "just knowing" what scratch off lotto tickets will be winners and how many to buy.
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Post#2 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:42 am

totenkopf wrote:As I have slowly returned to occult work, after nearly a 3 year long absence, I have decided to "Keep it simple stupid". I have undergone a very rapid change from a strict Traditional work, to things not as traditional, as I have learned much over the past three years that shook my paradigm and changed my approach. Anyway, I have started the NAP ritual by the book.

1.) I can tell a change in my mood (elevated) upon starting this. It is a very enjoyable experience, unlike evocation which is exhausting for me and strenuous.
2.) I feel as if something is working on my behalf, (Much like after an evocation you can feel the spirit around you working) however, again it's not weird or odd unlike with the Goetia.
3.) Today I started getting semi clairvoyant visions in my mind's eye of what I believe to be the spirit.
I have not gotten any of my desired results yet(money), but I have just begun and do not expect them so early. However, I have had a knack lately for "just knowing" what scratch off lotto tickets will be winners and how many to buy.


Hi there. To me you seem somewhat materialistic in approach. I realize I´ve prolly become kind a irritating to some people here in this forum - but I came to give and to learn and to share - because I pracitice magic: Try the I AM´s Solar rite for like a week before you do anything else.

http://www.studioarcanis.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=51

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Post#3 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:52 am

RAis wrote:
totenkopf wrote:As I have slowly returned to occult work, after nearly a 3 year long absence, I have decided to "Keep it simple stupid". I have undergone a very rapid change from a strict Traditional work, to things not as traditional, as I have learned much over the past three years that shook my paradigm and changed my approach. Anyway, I have started the NAP ritual by the book.

1.) I can tell a change in my mood (elevated) upon starting this. It is a very enjoyable experience, unlike evocation which is exhausting for me and strenuous.
2.) I feel as if something is working on my behalf, (Much like after an evocation you can feel the spirit around you working) however, again it's not weird or odd unlike with the Goetia.
3.) Today I started getting semi clairvoyant visions in my mind's eye of what I believe to be the spirit.
I have not gotten any of my desired results yet(money), but I have just begun and do not expect them so early. However, I have had a knack lately for "just knowing" what scratch off lotto tickets will be winners and how many to buy.


Hi there. To me you seem somewhat materialistic in approach. I realize I´ve prolly become kind a irritating to some people here in this forum - but I came to give and to learn and to share - because I pracitice magic: Try the I AM´s Solar rite for like a week before you do anything else.

http://www.studioarcanis.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=51

:thinking I use I AM for banishing unwanted spirits. Why would you use this?
"Ni neart go cur le cheile "

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Post#4 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:23 pm

RAis wrote:
Hi there. To me you seem somewhat materialistic in approach. I realize I´ve prolly become kind a irritating to some people here in this forum - but I came to give and to learn and to share - because I pracitice magic: Try the I AM´s Solar rite for like a week before you do anything else.

http://www.studioarcanis.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=51

I believe in enlightening oneself and growing spiritually with the great work. However, ones time is limited when money is limited. I also don't separate the material from the spiritual, as both are necessary for a healthy, happy and balanced life. Material success IMO is a sign that you know what the hell you're doing. If someone is broke and sick all the time, but claiming to be a "guru" or "teacher" I have no time for them. They live too much in the aether and not enough time in their own body.
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Post#5 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:49 pm

I feel like I AM's solar banishing rite is more than banishing, but also raising and directing energy, and I suspect more than that both from how it feels to me and from what's been written about it. I also don't think it is incompatible with NAP at all, but if one is simplifying and reassembling a practice then adding it as one starts NAP seems missing the point-- which is to simplify one's practice.

I think reading the book like every sentence was critically important, aloud is how I did it over time, helped me with it. I think it's easy to skip past the "figure out what you want to do or to happen" part, and I think what simplifying one's practice means (to me) is also clarifying one's intention and that starts with understanding where one is.

Since this is an art, and art transforms the artist, really feeling where one is at the moment is more important that it might seem on the surface. I feel like the beginning of the book, right up to Labezerin, is about that. I think that the relaxing and clearing of our mind is often much tougher than it seems, and theater exercises that deal with coming to terms with what I've seen called there the "inner atmosphere" are basically the same thing.

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Post#6 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:56 pm

lefty wrote:I feel like I AM's solar banishing rite is more than banishing, but also raising and directing energy, and I suspect more than that both from how it feels to me and from what's been written about it. I also don't think it is incompatible with NAP at all, but if one is simplifying and reassembling a practice then adding it as one starts NAP seems missing the point-- which is to simplify one's practice.

I think reading the book like every sentence was critically important, aloud is how I did it over time, helped me with it. I think it's easy to skip past the "figure out what you want to do or to happen" part, and I think what simplifying one's practice means (to me) is also clarifying one's intention and that starts with understanding where one is.

Since this is an art, and art transforms the artist, really feeling where one is at the moment is more important that it might seem on the surface. I feel like the beginning of the book, right up to Labezerin, is about that. I think that the relaxing and clearing of our mind is often much tougher than it seems, and theater exercises that deal with coming to terms with what I've seen called there the "inner atmosphere" are basically the same thing.

So... your saying im missing the point?
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Post#7 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:16 pm

I'm not saying that at all, especially if I get down to what the point might've been that you were responding to. I don't think it matters if he does I AM's ritual or not, but if he's simplifying then it might just be clutter at least as he's just picking up the book. From reading other posts here, I suspect he got a handle on what he's doing. I also think the suggestion of I Am's ritual here is coming from a place of doubt or mistrust or suspicion of the book. That, to me, is missing the point. But, as to why he might want to do the ritual-- and skipping past the reason it was proposed in the first place, which was because NAP is doubted as per the other thread in this forum-- well it's a good practice and that might be reason enough to do it. Sorry for the implication that truly wasn't intended or even imagined. I'm the newbie here, both you and the O.P. have more experience in this than I; but from my narrow experience I AM's ritual is compatible with NAP.

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Post#8 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:22 pm

lefty wrote:I'm not saying that at all, especially if I get down to what the point might've been that you were responding to. I don't think it matters if he does I AM's ritual or not, but if he's simplifying then it might just be clutter at least as he's just picking up the book. From reading other posts here, I suspect he got a handle on what he's doing. I also think the suggestion of I Am's ritual here is coming from a place of doubt or mistrust or suspicion of the book. That, to me, is missing the point. But, as to why he might want to do the ritual-- and skipping past the reason it was proposed in the first place, which was because NAP is doubted as per the other thread in this forum-- well it's a good practice and that might be reason enough to do it. Sorry for the implication that truly wasn't intended or even imagined. I'm the newbie here, both you and the O.P. have more experience in this than I; but from my narrow experience I AM's ritual is compatible with NAP.

I agree....I have used it with rituals in the past. It is a very effective rite. I guess for me it would depend on what ritual I was performing. Several here use it on a daily practice.
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Post#9 » Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:37 am

I must-- well I want to I guess is more accurate-- say that I was taken aback a bit when you thought I said you were missing the point. I think I see where you might have read that in my first post in this thread, but I was simply saying that if one is simplifying one's practice then adding I AM's ritual to NAP, regardless of one's reason or understanding of it, is missing the point of simplifying.

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Post#10 » Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:18 am

Update:
Out of the blue I was invited to go to a casino about an hour or so away from here. Coincidence or Synchronicity? I guess I'll find out if I come home with anything. I will be doing more ritual work before the trip.
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