RiverofThoughts wrote:How long did you practice occult magic/or NAP + meditation to start hearing spirits in general? Is it usually your own voice in your head telling you something or is it an actual foreign voice?
Super Celestials wrote:Haileos,
While I have not had the experience of audible or visible communication from the NAP spirits, I completely understand what you said about communication with results after the initial contacts had been made.
I've found this both with Anael and Jazar and with Elubatel -- I have remarkably fast results from Anael and Jazar, but with a Venus heavy astrological chart, there is a resonance. I even asked them for Venusian attributes while driving to a meeting, just mentally not a formal ritual -- and as soon as I entered the building, I received an entirely different reception than I usually do in that location, which was the exact reality I had asked them for, nothing 'over the top', just a bit of assistance on a bad hair day!
Also with Elubatel . . . I had petitioned him very specifically for something, and not long afterward, I experienced a kind of pinging to enter a particular store that I was driving past. I stopped, parked and walked towards the store thinking I was foolish, and literally upon reaching the store's doorway, the gentleman exiting approached me about the specific item which I had petitioned Elubatel within the last 24 o4 48 hours -- it involved publishing. I had met this gentleman once about eight months previously and had no idea whatsoever about his involvement with the subject of my request.
Also, in an extreme health situation, I petitioned Elubatel and Metatron for immediate help -- the help was sent instantly, as if they COULD hear my request -- I had no time to do a proper ritural -- and the person receiving the assistance told me later that afternoon that she had seen an "Angel in the light" while this was occuring.
haileos wrote:Does anyone else have conversations with the NAP entities? If so, I thought that maybe it would be of help if we all shared what they teach us. The two who I have communed with are Elubatel and Kadriel. Here are some things that Elubatel has told me that i have written down. What do you all think?
"The invocations are not so much to get our attention as they are to focus yours.
Remember, we are not the ones manifesting your intentions. Only you do that. Rather, we make straight the path and clear obstacles so that your intention, like an arrow released from it's sling, can hit it's mark.
You need to overcome the idea that through the invocations you are calling us to you. We are already with you all 24/7. We are parts of the whole of which you too are a part. Our perception of time/space is not of a continuum but of a single, eternal moment wherein all resides. You are there in that moment along with all of your intentions, both past and present. And we are aware of them. We read them and all aspects of you like an open book.
You do not need to go through the formal invocations to obtain our help once you have some working familiarity with us. As with all things, the order and process of workings becomes looser and more flexible as experience is gained. Some of you have discovered that you receive help simply by thinking of us and this is accurate. The invitation we offer to you is that of friendship whereby requests are honored on that basis rather than on the basis of a "word of power". Again, the words of power are more to help you obtain the proper psycho�-energetic state for you to make contact with us and raise energy. Once contact with us is established, merely stating your intentions to us is enough to obtain our help and the invocations can be done away with. Why invoke forces that are already present? Again, banishing is more for calming and warding off any possible "negative" energies dredged up from your own psyche and given power by and during the invocations. We encourage you to try this and see for yourself whether or not it is true for you."
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