OK folks, got a question. If I evoke lets say Ladilok with no incense will I achieve any results. Haven't tried because failure is not what I want. But at the same time I live in a no smoking place and have no opportunities for inscense use with being kicked out or worse. Also something disturbed me when I was flipping through my copy of KIF. The exact words escape me but to paraphrase it was something like "those who are unable to percieve the spirits should undergo addition training". What does that mean? What additional training? If any of you knows what that means please send me an email or just explain it away here so I can undergo it. Thank ya!