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by summerland
Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:59 pm
Forum: New Avatar Power
Topic: (My thoughts on) Elubatel's negative effects
Replies: 15
Views: 698

Re: (My thoughts on) Elubatel's negative effects

Could the depression be part of it and a necessary tool? Maybe we need to work through those feelings? Suicidal ideation - which I never experienced before in my life - came about as part of my own success working. Thankfully I have friends, a partner, and a cat as my anchor. I also recognized it f...
by summerland
Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:08 pm
Forum: New Avatar Power
Topic: (My thoughts on) Elubatel's negative effects
Replies: 15
Views: 698

Re: (My thoughts on) Elubatel's negative effects

I asked Elubatel why i feel depression after i summon him... He said it is of my own self image that what i ask of him i subconsciously feel that it will fail.... So yes i guess it is of my own self destruction that i sabotage myself. He also noted that he doesnt have emotions therefore success can...
by summerland
Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:27 am
Forum: New Avatar Power
Topic: (My thoughts on) Elubatel's negative effects
Replies: 15
Views: 698

Re: (My thoughts on) Elubatel's negative effects

I asked Elubatel why i feel depression after i summon him...He said it is of my own self image that what i ask of him i subconsciously feel that it will fail.... So yes i guess it is of my own self destruction that i sabotage myself. He also noted that he doesnt have emotions therefore success can b...
by summerland
Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:53 pm
Forum: New Avatar Power
Topic: (My thoughts on) Elubatel's negative effects
Replies: 15
Views: 698

Re: (My thoughts on) Elubatel's negative effects

To be honest ....Its a different kind of depression, Its like to me i feel the depression and dont know why i do. Ive seen miracles happen when i work with El and should be elated with what is happening but still cant shake the sadness and dont know why. it normally last a couple days. But this isnt...
by summerland
Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:15 pm
Forum: New Avatar Power
Topic: (My thoughts on) Elubatel's negative effects
Replies: 15
Views: 698

Re: (My thoughts on) Elubatel's negative effects

There is a lot of talk about Elubatel (which to my mind can be generalized to a lot of other success oriented magic) often completely upending a person's life, more or less backing them into a wall so that the person has to marshal their resources to become successful. These are two thoughts I have...
by summerland
Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:54 pm
Forum: New Avatar Power
Topic: crazy ride with Elubatel
Replies: 198
Views: 36470

Re: crazy ride with Elubatel

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences here, summerland. Curious that you got better results on a Sunday between 1pm and 3pm - was this a week ago? If so, we were starting a Full Moon, which would make a lot of sense here. With regard to Lunar magic, it can act as a magnifying glass for c...
by summerland
Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:23 am
Forum: New Avatar Power
Topic: crazy ride with Elubatel
Replies: 198
Views: 36470

Re: crazy ride with Elubatel

For over a year i was gun shy of this spirit I didnt do anything with him. But this spirit never left me alone. When you Envoke Elubatel the task is not finished until you accomplish what you set forth to do (i havent accomplished my goals yet so this is never ending)
by summerland
Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:14 am
Forum: New Avatar Power
Topic: crazy ride with Elubatel
Replies: 198
Views: 36470

Re: crazy ride with Elubatel

Ive also noticed when working with this spirit Everything goes to shit the first day (or weeks...Some might think its a curse) Until the current levels out (yes i said current... because this current is flowing through you) Its like having a bad cold and taking a antibiotic and everything starts bre...
by summerland
Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:56 am
Forum: New Avatar Power
Topic: crazy ride with Elubatel
Replies: 198
Views: 36470

Re: crazy ride with Elubatel

As far as the location im in...It doesnt matter. I dont do ANY formal rituals with Elubatel. That is a no-no....Nothing...Just summon him. I dont advise anyone just starting with him to do this! I just do what works for me. And something i cant elaborate on.
by summerland
Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:50 am
Forum: New Avatar Power
Topic: crazy ride with Elubatel
Replies: 198
Views: 36470

Re: crazy ride with Elubatel

Im not big into astrology (maybe i should be) Twice when i summoned Elubatel on Sunday between 1pm to 3pm Ive noticed very good results as compared to different times and days during the week (where i got bad results) Maybe someone who does astrology can elaborate this time and day. To pin it down,...

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