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by summerland
Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:04 pm
Forum: New Avatar Power
Topic: Labezerin put to the test
Replies: 20
Views: 3896

Re: Labezerin put to the test

But for sure...Ill leave Dynamis alone, I encountered too many rednecks when i invoked him. Just like Elubatel, Dynamis gives you what you REALLY want. I got the same results as you, the first time I invoked him. Word your request appropriately. Ive worked with him before...But this last time was e...
by summerland
Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:26 pm
Forum: New Avatar Power
Topic: Labezerin put to the test
Replies: 20
Views: 3896

Re: Labezerin put to the test

I just want to give a thank you to Labezerine.....I posted in this thread because i want to let it known i didnt go thru with the test. Although in the past i didnt really get good results with him if any. But i changed my approach with this spirit. I dont use formal rituals with him, I just summon ...
by summerland
Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:07 am
Forum: New Avatar Power
Topic: (My thoughts on) Elubatel's negative effects
Replies: 32
Views: 2235

Re: (My thoughts on) Elubatel's negative effects

It could be Elubatel is associated with saturine effects... But imo It could be associated with just the time of year. A lot of people get depressed around this time. Thus invoking Elubatel probably is not in ones best interest....
by summerland
Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:38 pm
Forum: New Avatar Power
Topic: (My thoughts on) Elubatel's negative effects
Replies: 32
Views: 2235

Re: (My thoughts on) Elubatel's negative effects

Just a minor note, I haphazardly evoked Elubatel earlier in the year and didn't give it much afterthought. My life was certainly upended, hopefully for the better, but because the evocation sessions seemed so minor I'm not sure that it had anything to do with Elubatel. But it is possible. So what d...
by summerland
Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:51 pm
Forum: New Avatar Power
Topic: (My thoughts on) Elubatel's negative effects
Replies: 32
Views: 2235

Re: (My thoughts on) Elubatel's negative effects

I've done my first work with Elubatel recently following the instructions on the NAP book. She (because thats how she appeared for me if you think shes a guy then sure I dont think s/he cares). I do think she is quite spectacular on her work... I've been working with her in the simple ritual for th...
by summerland
Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:59 pm
Forum: New Avatar Power
Topic: (My thoughts on) Elubatel's negative effects
Replies: 32
Views: 2235

Re: (My thoughts on) Elubatel's negative effects

Could the depression be part of it and a necessary tool? Maybe we need to work through those feelings? Suicidal ideation - which I never experienced before in my life - came about as part of my own success working. Thankfully I have friends, a partner, and a cat as my anchor. I also recognized it f...
by summerland
Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:08 pm
Forum: New Avatar Power
Topic: (My thoughts on) Elubatel's negative effects
Replies: 32
Views: 2235

Re: (My thoughts on) Elubatel's negative effects

I asked Elubatel why i feel depression after i summon him... He said it is of my own self image that what i ask of him i subconsciously feel that it will fail.... So yes i guess it is of my own self destruction that i sabotage myself. He also noted that he doesnt have emotions therefore success can...
by summerland
Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:27 am
Forum: New Avatar Power
Topic: (My thoughts on) Elubatel's negative effects
Replies: 32
Views: 2235

Re: (My thoughts on) Elubatel's negative effects

I asked Elubatel why i feel depression after i summon him...He said it is of my own self image that what i ask of him i subconsciously feel that it will fail.... So yes i guess it is of my own self destruction that i sabotage myself. He also noted that he doesnt have emotions therefore success can b...
by summerland
Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:53 pm
Forum: New Avatar Power
Topic: (My thoughts on) Elubatel's negative effects
Replies: 32
Views: 2235

Re: (My thoughts on) Elubatel's negative effects

To be honest ....Its a different kind of depression, Its like to me i feel the depression and dont know why i do. Ive seen miracles happen when i work with El and should be elated with what is happening but still cant shake the sadness and dont know why. it normally last a couple days. But this isnt...
by summerland
Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:15 pm
Forum: New Avatar Power
Topic: (My thoughts on) Elubatel's negative effects
Replies: 32
Views: 2235

Re: (My thoughts on) Elubatel's negative effects

There is a lot of talk about Elubatel (which to my mind can be generalized to a lot of other success oriented magic) often completely upending a person's life, more or less backing them into a wall so that the person has to marshal their resources to become successful. These are two thoughts I have...

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